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Drifting Away
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Hello Folks
by Tallon ina newbie here, joined about half an hour ago.
i started the fade about 10 years ago and have been totally inactive for about 3 years.
the reason being was that i became totally disillusioned.
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Today's Text - Show Appreciation For Elders! LOL
by Divergent inwednesday, august 10. holy spirit has appointed you overseers, to shepherd the congregation of god.—acts 20:28.. it is important that we show appreciation for god’s arrangement for shepherding his flock.
christian elders are a provision from jehovah, who always acts in our best interests.
the elders are “like a hiding place from the wind, a place of concealment from the rainstorm, like streams of water in a waterless land, like the shadow of a massive crag in a parched land.” (isa.
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Drifting Away
So funny, I just said to myself, I am gonna read todays text, then go online and google" bible messages of the day"
And WT goes and brings out By obeying those taking the lead among us, we show how much we appreciate these “gifts in men”
And online it says Wednesday, August 10
Lamentations 3:31-3231 For no one is cast off by the Lord forever. 32 Though he brings grief, he will show compassion, so great is his unfailing love.
Read Lamentations 3So basically WT is about obedience to man and some random online site talks about God showing compassion. Man I cant believe I never seen this kind of talk before..
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Openly converting to another religion but not disfellowshipped
by R Franz Ferdinand III inodd.... friends of mine recently became members of an evangelical church.. up until they got baptised in this church, they still were visiting the jw meetings on a regular basis.they weren't really fading in the true sense of the word.. they came out of the closet about their new conviction quite publicly and even didn't shy away from getting in debate with the elders on biblical topics.. the elders are obviously very aware about their position and as they still were attending the meetings not so long ago, they clearly can be considered as people associated with the jw organisation.. as far as i know it seems they won't get disfellowshipped.
as long my friends don't harrass fellow witnesses with their 'renegade ideas' and 'false religion', elders seem to comply and leave things as they are.. this puzzles me as defecting to babylon the great always has been one the most worst offenses a jw could possibly commit.. could this be a case of local elders interpreting/applying things their own way or is there a (new) general policy trending ?.
anyone who knows about similar cases ?.
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Drifting Away
Wow this is a first I ever heard. Perhaps they have some sort of mental issues, or are playing the Crazy card, and are getting a free pass.
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Openly converting to another religion but not disfellowshipped
by R Franz Ferdinand III inodd.... friends of mine recently became members of an evangelical church.. up until they got baptised in this church, they still were visiting the jw meetings on a regular basis.they weren't really fading in the true sense of the word.. they came out of the closet about their new conviction quite publicly and even didn't shy away from getting in debate with the elders on biblical topics.. the elders are obviously very aware about their position and as they still were attending the meetings not so long ago, they clearly can be considered as people associated with the jw organisation.. as far as i know it seems they won't get disfellowshipped.
as long my friends don't harrass fellow witnesses with their 'renegade ideas' and 'false religion', elders seem to comply and leave things as they are.. this puzzles me as defecting to babylon the great always has been one the most worst offenses a jw could possibly commit.. could this be a case of local elders interpreting/applying things their own way or is there a (new) general policy trending ?.
anyone who knows about similar cases ?.
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Drifting Away
WOW!
First I am hearing of this. Were they baptised as a JW?
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Which Scripture "don't judge others customs"?
by Drifting Away ini am starting to get to the boiling point, to make a long story short, i am getting hounded from alot of family and elder visits.
i sorta put a halt on the elder visits, but the family is starting in on me now.
anyway to get back to topic, what scripture is it that says something to the affect of that do not judge how some celebrate there customs or beliefs or something like that?.
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Drifting Away
Alot has been happening to me these past few months. I feel like I am ready to just give up, and do my own thing with my family .I can't take the texts from family that say "sit with the family and "read todays watchtower", or "read todays text" I feel like saying "read the latest law suits online. or read about Ties with the UN. or "why does the GB, feel the need to be above Jesus?" I was going to try and just fade, but I dont think that is gonna happen anymore. A few of my family know how i feel, and that me and my family have not been to meetings in months, and been laying guilt trip in a big way. And If i hear one more "the convention videos are the best" I am gonna freak and say, Yeh I saw them on Apostate Youtube clips..HAHA BTW, My wife has been very supportive..
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Which Scripture "don't judge others customs"?
by Drifting Away ini am starting to get to the boiling point, to make a long story short, i am getting hounded from alot of family and elder visits.
i sorta put a halt on the elder visits, but the family is starting in on me now.
anyway to get back to topic, what scripture is it that says something to the affect of that do not judge how some celebrate there customs or beliefs or something like that?.
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Drifting Away
Neat Blue..That was it. Romans 14 Thanks...
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Which Scripture "don't judge others customs"?
by Drifting Away ini am starting to get to the boiling point, to make a long story short, i am getting hounded from alot of family and elder visits.
i sorta put a halt on the elder visits, but the family is starting in on me now.
anyway to get back to topic, what scripture is it that says something to the affect of that do not judge how some celebrate there customs or beliefs or something like that?.
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Drifting Away
I am starting to get to the boiling point, To make a long story short, I am getting hounded from alot of family and elder visits. I sorta put a halt on the elder visits, but the family is starting in on me now.
Anyway to get back to topic, what scripture is it that says something to the affect of That do not judge how some celebrate there customs or beliefs or something like that?
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What to say? I Don't want to go to meetings anymore?
by Drifting Away inso it has been a couple of months since me and my family have attended a meeting.
we have received a few calls and visits.
but what do you say when people ask "where have you been"?
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Drifting Away
Thanks for all your responses, Huge fan of office space.
Usually I just say" We are doing good, how are you guys", and dont give them a chance to pry into my personal life. Funny thing is the elders have not asked me why I am not going, they just stopped by to say hi and encourage. I have said " We are doing fantastic, thanks for asking" and I think they think we should be depressed, when in all honesty we have never been happier.
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What to say? I Don't want to go to meetings anymore?
by Drifting Away inso it has been a couple of months since me and my family have attended a meeting.
we have received a few calls and visits.
but what do you say when people ask "where have you been"?
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Drifting Away
So it has been a couple of months since me and my family have attended a meeting. We have received a few calls and visits. But what do you say when people ask "Where have you been"? It is so odd and awkward..
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When a crime is commited?
by Drifting Away ini responded to someone on another thread, but would love to know this answer.. if a victim adult or child goes to elders and claims they were abused, don't they have to have clergy confidentiality?
so i was told that they encourage the victim to contact authorities , and they contact bethel, but arent there hands tied if the victim does not want to go to authorities?
an elder made the comment to me once.
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Drifting Away
Good question ab. ortega